The Faces of Antichrist

An IN DEPTH study of the Faces of Antichrist, the BEAST SYSTEM, the Little Horn,

and other scriptures about the ‘antichrist’

which leads us to believe there is NOT ONE ANTICHRIST.

From what we can see, the way the Lord is orchestrating the last seven years is VERY DIFFERENT than the mainstream prophetic view of the last seven years, and especially NOTHING like the ‘Left Behind Series’

(From one of our team members. This is a lengthy study, but worth it- I will be adding photos and links!)

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(This is a work in progress discussion about the end times. Unless otherwise noted, all Bible references come from the New King James version of the Bible.)

So to begin and get into it, one of the main places in the Bible that we get quite a few of our ideas about the end times is that Revelation 13 set of prophecies talked about above and throughout this whole explanation. This particular passage talks all about a beast coming up out of the sea with seven heads and ten horns on those heads, which everyone in the world who does not belong to God marvels at and worships. It also talks about such things as people receiving the mark of this beast out of the sea upon themselves, as well as an image of this beast that causes everyone who doesn’t worship it to die. This chapter is also where the whole idea of someone having a mortal wound that is healed comes from, because it talks about one of the heads on this beast having a mortal wound that is healed. In addition to the beast out of the sea, there are also things about a beast out of the earth that can be found here too, which it talks about doing great signs and wonders that cause the whole world to worship the beast out of the sea even more. At least in our interpretations of the end times, this is where we get the idea that the false prophet talked about elsewhere in Revelation will be doing great signs and wonders, because it’s always been believed that this beast out of the earth is that false prophet.

But in the end, there are just a lot of things about the end times that come from this chapter and come from what it says about this specific beast out of the sea, as well as that beast out of the earth that does things for this beast out of the sea. The mark especially has also become one of the most famous things about the end times that I think pretty much everyone knows about.

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Revelation 13

1 Then I stood on the sand of the sea. And I saw a beast rising up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and on his horns ten crowns, and on his heads a blasphemous name.
2 Now the beast which I saw was like a leopard, his feet were like the feet of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of a lion. The dragon gave him his power, his throne, and great authority.
3 And I saw one of his heads as if it had been mortally wounded, and his deadly wound was healed. And all the world marveled and followed the beast.
4 So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?”
5 And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to continue for forty-two months.
6 Then he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme His name, His tabernacle, and those who dwell in heaven.
7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation.
8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
9 If anyone has an ear, let him hear.
10 He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; he who kills with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
11 Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb and spoke like a dragon.
12 And he exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence, and causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men.

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14 And he deceives those who dwell on the earth by those signs which he was granted to do in the sight of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who was wounded by the sword and lived.
15 He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed.

16 He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads,
17 and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.
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Then within these prophecies found in Revelation 13, as we have tried to interpret the meaning of this beast out of the sea and all of the things surrounding it, one of the most core beliefs about the end times that has come into existence is the idea that this beast coming up out of the sea is representative of the person we commonly refer to as the anti-christ, as well as being representative of his kingdom. And going down this road further, this very core belief or interpretation is where we then get a lot of our beliefs about the anti-christ from.

Like, for instance, the idea that the mark is about swearing allegiance to this one man, the anti-christ himself. And it’s because Revelation 13 talks about this mark being about the beast out of the sea, and since we believe the anti-christ is this beast, we then believe the mark would be about him. Or the whole idea of the anti-christ being worshiped by all of mankind and having this global, one world government empire. This too comes from Revelation 13 where it talks about the beast out of the sea being worshiped by all of mankind and being given the authority every every tongue, tribe, and nation. And since we believe the beast is the anti-christ, the thinking then goes that all of that must be about the anti-christ as well, and the whole world is going to be worshipping this one central man who has taken over the whole world, all because he is the beast and the one in charge of this whole beast kingdom. Even the idea of the anti-christ having some kind of mortal wound that gets healed, which makes the world worship him even more, comes from here. And it’s because, as mentioned above, Revelation 13 talks about one of the heads on the beast having a deadly wound that gets healed, and since it’s believed the anti-christ is the beast, that must be about the anti-christ as well. And in the end, all of these ideas come about because of this one very core belief that the beast out of the sea represents the anti-christ and his kingdom.

But beyond this, there are actually two other main sets of prophecies, along with a few other ones, that get brought into this mix as well, which altogether creates a more complete picture of the anti-christ that has become so well known and such a part of all of our interpretations of the end times.

The first set of prophecies can be found in Daniel 7 and 8, where it talks about a “little horn” who does certain things during the end times. This little horn will be talked about a lot more later on, but suffice to say for now, in all of our interpretations of the end times, we have always thought of this little horn being representative of the anti-christ, just like we have always thought of the beast out of the sea being representative of the anti-christ. And when we add this little horn into the mix, this is where a lot of our ideas about the anti-christ’s personality comes from.

Like where it talks about this little horn “understanding sinister schemes,” or in some translations being “skilled at intrigues,” in Daniel 8:23. Or in Daniel 8:25, it says that through this little horn’s cunning,

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“he shall cause deceit to prosper.” These are the kind of qualities that we talk about the anti-christ having, and in a lot of our interpretations, he is even suppose to come to power in the world through this ability to scheme and deceive. And it all comes from this prophecy about this little horn.

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23 “And in the latter time of their kingdom,
When the transgressors have reached their fullness,
A king shall arise,
Having fierce features,
Who understands sinister schemes…
24 His power shall be mighty, but not by his own power; He shall destroy fearfully,
And shall prosper and thrive;
He shall destroy the mighty, and also the holy people. 25 “Through his cunning
He shall cause deceit to prosper under his rule;
And he shall exalt himself in his heart.
He shall destroy many in their prosperity.
He shall even rise against the Prince of princes;
But he shall be broken without human means.
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But probably most importantly, this and 2 Thessalonians are where a lot of the ideas come from about a Third Temple being built and subsequently destroyed in Jerusalem before Jesus comes back. And along with that, also the whole idea that the anti-christ will try to sit on God’s throne in that temple and try to take the place of God, while also stopping the animal sacrifices the Jewish people are doing in the Temple. And the reason these ideas come about is because Daniel 8 talks about this little horn casting down “the place of His (God’s) sanctuary” and taking away “daily sacrifices.” So since it talks about God’s sanctuary, and seemingly talks about daily sacrifices being taken away, it’s then naturally thought that there would have to be another Temple built in order for those things to happen. Since this little horn is also seen as the anti-christ, it’s also then naturally thought that the anti-christ would be the one to cast down the place of God’s sanctuary and take away those daily sacrifices, in addition to doing all of the things the beast out of the sea does.

As for the whole idea of the anti-christ trying to sit on God’s throne and take the place of God in that Temple, this mainly comes from that 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12 prophecy mentioned above, in which Paul talks about a “man of lawlessness” or “lawless one” who will exalt himself over everything that is called God and set himself up as God in God’s Temple. And as far as our interpretations go, just the same as all of these other entities, this man of lawlessness has always been thought to be this person we call the anti-christ as well. So it’s then also always been thought that the anti-christ would be the one to set himself up as God in God’s Temple.

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2 Thessalonians 2

3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.
4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

5 Don’t you remember that when I was with you I used to tell you these things?

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6 And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time.
7 For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way.
8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming.
9 The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie,
10 and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.
11 For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie
12 and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness. ——-

But at the same time, we also tie in the little horn here as well, because the prophecies in Daniel also talk about things that are similar to this 2 Thessalonians prophecy. Specifically verse 10 where it talks about this little horn exalting himself up to the host of the heavens, which very much could be seen as trying to set himself up as God, as well as verses 13 and 14 that were mentioned above where it talks about a transgression of desolation and the sanctuary and host being trampled under foot, which could also be seen as desecrating God’s throne by trying to be God in it. Then after this, it talks about a certain amount of days before the sanctuary will be cleansed from whatever has happened.

Putting these verses together with the ones in 2 Thessalonians, one can see how this then creates the full picture of what we believe is going to happen with a Third Temple. First you have the whole idea of the anti-christ sitting in that Temple trying to be God and exalting himself up to the host of the heavens, which is found in 2 Thessalonians and Daniel. While at the same time, you also have the idea of the anti-christ taking away the sacrifices that are happening at the Temple, and in the end, eventually destroying it, which is found only in Daniel. And in the end, it creates that full picture of the Third Temple and the anti-christ’s interactions with it that has become so much a part of all of our interpretations of the end times. It’s also again this mixing together of these different prophecies and entities into being all about one man; this one we refer to as the anti-christ.

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Daniel 8

8 Therefore the male goat grew very great; but when he became strong, the large horn was broken, and in place of it four notable ones came up toward the four winds of heaven.
9 And out of one of them came a little horn which grew exceedingly great toward the south, toward the east, and toward the Glorious Land.

10 And it grew up to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and some of the stars to the ground, and trampled them.
11 He even exalted himself as high as the Prince of the host; and by him the daily sacrifices were taken away, and the place of His sanctuary was cast down.

12 Because of transgression, an army was given over to the horn to oppose the daily sacrifices; and he cast truth down to the ground. He did all this and prospered.
13 Then I heard a holy one speaking; and another holy one said to that certain one who was speaking, “How long will the vision be, concerning the daily sacrifices and the transgression of desolation, the giving of both the sanctuary and the host to be trampled underfoot?”

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And I should just add in here that even though a lot of translations add in the word “sacrifice” after daily, in order to make it “daily sacrifice” as it is in the above translation, when one looks at the Hebrew, there is actually nothing about sacrifices in these verses, and the word for sacrifice isn’t even there. It is instead literally just the word for something that is “continual” or “constant” or “daily,” and the sacrifices part is only an interpretation added in by the translators. This is also why the word “sacrifices” has been italicized in the above translation, because it’s not actually there. So as far as the fulfillment of this prophecy goes, what this of course means is that there are actually no sacrifices that have to be stopped in order for this prophecy to be fulfilled, and the only thing that has to actually happen is the “place” or point on earth where God’s sanctuary has either stood in the past or is standing has to be cast down, and something that is continual or constant has to be opposed and taken away at that place. Just a little interesting thing to mention about this prophecy.

But to get on with things, in the end, adding in these Daniel prophecies about the little horn is where a lot of our ideas about the little horn’s personality comes from, as well as what we believe about the anti-christ and the Third Temple when it’s combined with 2 Thessalonians. And the things about the Third Temple in particular are an important addition to our interpretations of the anti-christ because, like the mark, this idea of the Third Temple is another big thing that all of us have been taught to look for with the anti-christ. Even to the point that we believe there is basically no way that God could ever be coming back unless this big magnificent Third Temple has been built, and there is no way anyone can be this person we refer to as the anti-christ unless he exalts himself at that Third Temple and stops those daily sacrifices.

As for the second set of prophecies that have really shaped our view of the anti-christ, they can be found in 1 John 2 and 4, as well as 2 John 1, where John refers to people who are anti-christ and a spirit of anti-christness which was coming and also already in the world during his time. And the thing that is so important about these verses is that this is actually where we even get the term “anti-christ” from, and is in fact the only place in the Bible where this term is ever used. So without John talking about this anti-christ spirit, there actually wouldn’t even be anyone in the end times who we refer to as the “anti-christ” because that term is never used anywhere else.

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1 John 2

18 Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that the[d] Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come, by which we know that it is the last hour.
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us… …22 Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son.

23 Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

(footnote d: 1 John 2:18 NU omits the)

1 John 4

2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God,
3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.

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4 You are of God, little children, and have overcome them, because He who is in you is greater than he who is in the world.
5 They are of the world. Therefore they speak as of the world, and the world hears them.
6 We are of God. He who knows God hears us; he who is not of God does not hear us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.

2 John 1
7 For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
8 Look to yourselves, that we do not lose those things we worked for, but that we may receive a full reward.
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But as far as our interpretations of the end times go, the reason why this is such an important inclusion is because it’s kind of become a catch-all phrase for various entities during the end times, bringing them all together under one umbrella term. For instance, the mark is no longer about the beast out of the sea in any of our interpretations, even though this is specifically what it’s about in the Bible, and is instead always just talked about as the mark of the anti-christ. Or the “place of His sanctuary” in Daniel is no longer cast down by the little horn, and is instead cast down by just the anti-christ John refers to. And even though these two entities are called different things in the Bible, bringing in that term “anti-christ,” it’s what combines them together in all of our interpretations of the end times. It’s really become kind of the glue that binds all of these ideas and concepts together in a way that we don’t even have to refer to them as they are actually talked about in the Bible. It’s instead just “the anti- christ.” I would say combining it with these other prophecies also removes this term from even the context that John is using it here in these verses. Because reading the context, you see that he refers to many people as anti-christ’s and according to his own definition, being the “anti-christ” only means being someone, “who denies the Father and the Son,” as he says in verse 22 above. So in fact everyone who is denying the Father and the Son are the anti-christ and anti-christs, according to what John is saying here. And it’s not that there is just one single “anti-christ,” but many “anti-christs.”

So putting all of this together, combining these three areas of the Bible are basically where we get almost all of our ideas about this anti-christ type person and the things he will do during the end times, as well as where we get the idea that the mark will be about this anti-christ type person. There are of course other places that contribute as well that we put into this mix, like Ezekiel 38 that talks about an entity named Gog and what is commonly referred to as the Gog and Magog war, which we see as the anti-christ, and there are also those 2 Thessalonians verses about that man of lawlessness talked above that we see as the antichrist. But still, by and large, the main prophecies that have contributed the most to what has become our view of the anti-christ would be the ones in Revelation 13, Daniel, and 1 John. And right or wrong, this kind of mashing together of all of these different prophecies and entities is how the concept of the anti-christ we all have in our minds through various movies or teachings, etc. has come into existence.

And just to kind of summarize a bit and put this whole interpretation into a single sentence, the main way we have come to interpret end times prophecy in the Bible, and the main way that we have come to view this person we refer to as the anti-christ, is basically the idea that the anti-christ John refers to in 1 John, is also the beast out of the sea found in Revelation, as well as the little horn found in Daniel, and also the man of lawlessness found in 2 Thessalonians, while also being the one referred to as Gog

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in Ezekiel 38, and anytime any one of these entities is being talked about in the Bible, our interpretation says that it is automatically talking about the others as well, since all of them are seen as the same person. And it’s through this combining together of all of these different entities into one person that we then create the idea of the anti-christ that we are all familiar with. By extension, this idea of them being combined together also becomes probably the most core belief we have about the anti-christ, because of how much it shapes everything we believe that figure is going to be doing during the end times. I would say it has also shaped pretty much our entire view of what the end times in general will even look like as well, because it has made this one man, the anti-christ, into pretty much the entire, all encompassing focus of the end times. Even more of a focus than all of the things God is doing, in many ways.

But in the end, all of this together is basically where we get and create this figure we call the anti-christ, as well as why we believe the mark and all of these other things will be about him.

However, after talking about all of that, one of the things that is really fascinating about all of these prophecies is that there is actually nothing in them that specifically says these different entities have to be the same person or entity, like we have said they are. And in fact, all of them could be entirely different people or entities doing all of these things during the end times, and it would still fulfill each of these prophecies.

For instance, even though Paul talks in 2 Thessalonians about a man of lawlessness sitting in the Temple of God as God, there is nothing in the Bible that says that man of lawlessness has to also then be the one to trample “the place of His sanctuary” and take away something continual as the little horn in Daniel. And furthermore, if one interprets the Temple of God to be us as people, as Paul refers to us in 1 Corinthians 3 where he says we are God’s temple, then to sit in God’s Temple may not even be about sitting in a physical Temple, and that man of lawlessness could instead just be sitting as God in our own hearts.

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2 Thessalonians 2

4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

1 Corinthians 3
16 Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?
17 If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.

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So what could actually happen is that on the one hand, the little horn does something physical to the place of God’s sanctuary, or the place it has stood in the past, by trampling it and taking away something continual. While on the other hand whoever or whatever that man of lawlessness is could be doing something spiritual in our own hearts, and in the end both prophecies would be fulfilled without those two entities even being the same person or entity. Or for that matter, even “the place of His sanctuary” and the Temple being the same thing.

This is also true even when one includes the part in Daniel about the little horn exalting himself above the Prince of princes, or rather exalting himself above Jesus, and the part about the man of lawlessness trying to sit as God in 2 Thessalonians. Because even though both the little horn and the man of lawlessness are doing this same kind of thing, the fact of the matter is, people doing this sort of thing is nothing new on the earth, and even Pharaoh during the time of Moses did this as well. He exalted himself over everything that is called God, above God, with everyone worshipping him as God in their lives. Many times even today, we still look to our leaders and governments in this way, where we exalt them as God and a replacement for God in our lives. This happens many times in the entertainment industry as well, where people are worshipped and exalted in place of God. And anytime anyone tries to take the place of God in man’s hearts, or tries to be people’s saviour in place of Jesus, they are doing exactly what is described here in these verses. So just the same as multiple people have already done what these verses talk about in both the present and the past, so too there could very well be multiple people during the end times who are trying to exalt themselves above God, and just because what these two entities are doing is similar to each other, it doesn’t automatically mean they are the same entity. It just means they are doing similar things.

And who knows of course how all of those things are going to play out, and who knows if this man of lawlessness and the little horn are the same person or not, but the point is that they don’t have to be, and if from God’s perspective the correct interpretation is that they are different entities, then they won’t be the same person like we have always thought they would be.

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2 Thessalonians 2

4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

Daniel 8
11 He even exalted himself as high as the Prince of the host; and by him the daily sacrifices were taken away, and the place of His sanctuary was cast down.

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When one reads about the beast out of the sea, this same thing could also be said about it as well, that even though it talks about various things that are similar to these other entities, there isn’t actually anything that says they have to be the same entity. And it just really is fascinating how God never actually comes right out and says all of these entities are the same, even though He definitely could have with the way the Daniel prophecy was given hundreds of years before the Revelation or 2 Thessalonians prophecies were given. The Ezekiel prophecy about Gog was also given before the Daniel prophecy as well, which means there would have been yet another opportunity to come out and say, “These are the same entities.” Yet God never did do that, which makes one wonder why that might be.

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But I think this also really highlights how interpretation and the way God might interpret his own prophecies really is everything, and just because we might interpret something one way and say that interpretation is “Gospel Truth,” doesn’t mean it’s the only way of looking at it, and doesn’t mean God has to interpret it the way we do or fulfill it according to our “Gospel Truth.” Because the fact of the matter is, it is entirely possible for these entities to be different from each other, and the question becomes, what then? What happens to how these end times look and our interpretation of it if the way these prophecies are meant to be fulfilled is by different entities taking on different roles? And how do we even know that we have had the correct interpretation all this time when there are other ways of looking at it that are just as valid? To use an old expression, how we believe things should be doesn’t amount to a hill of beans if God ends up fulfilling His prophecies differently than we expect them to be fulfilled, and the entire end times happens without us ever even realizing it, simply because we were looking at it all wrong and it was different than we expected it to be.

Because the real issue isn’t what we think or believe, it’s what God does that matters, and He doesn’t have to follow what we believe. But even more, with the way that He says in Isaiah 55 that His thoughts and ways are not our thoughts and ways, and, “as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways, and My thoughts than your thoughts,” the chances of us even getting the interpretation of a prophecy correct beforehand become extremely small. Because, in all honesty, how does one even get the interpretation of a prophecy right when one isn’t even capable of thinking in the same way as the one who gives that prophecy? Or how does one look at it correctly when the thoughts of the one who gives it are miles upon miles above your own? It becomes very nearly impossible.

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Isaiah 55
8 “For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways My ways,” says the LORD. 9 “For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways,
And My thoughts than your thoughts.
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And this was always the problem when He came the first time as well. That everyone during that time had His coming all figured out with all of these theories and beliefs about how things were suppose to happen and how thee Messiah was suppose to look, just like we do now. Yet when God came, He chose to do things differently and fulfilled pretty much everything in a different way from how anyone expected, and instead of letting go of their interpretations and theories, many of them chose to hold on to those things instead of God, in the end, rejecting Him and His ways of doing things, and rejecting the entire idea that He had even come. Even to this day, this is still why many reject His first coming, simply because it didn’t happen the way they think it should have happened, and it didn’t happen according to their “correct” interpretation of how things should go down.

Even John the Baptist, who Jesus called the greatest prophet who ever lived and who saw the dove come down on Him when He was baptized and heard God say that Jesus was His beloved son, still had a hard time accepting the idea that Jesus truly was the Messiah and was God after he, John, was put in prison and things stopped going the way he thought they should go. This was why he sent his disciples in Matthew 6 to ask Jesus if He really was the Messiah, because things weren’t going according to his belief about what it should be like when the Messiah comes. To which Jesus says a very important thing of, “blessed is he who is not offended because of Me.” Or to paraphrase, blessed is he who is not

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offended or angry because of Me and My ways when I do things differently from how you think they should be done.

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Matthew 3

13 Then Jesus came from Galilee to John at the Jordan to be baptized by him.
14 And John tried to prevent Him, saying, “I need to be baptized by You, and are You coming to me?” 15 But Jesus answered and said to him, “Permit it to be so now, for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness.” Then he allowed Him.
16 When He had been baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened to Him, and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting upon Him. 17 And suddenly a voice came from heaven, saying, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.”

Matthew 11

1 Now it came to pass, when Jesus finished commanding His twelve disciples, that He departed from there to teach and to preach in their cities.
2 And when John had heard in prison about the works of Christ, he sent two of his disciples
3 and said to Him, “Are You the Coming One, or do we look for another?”

4 Jesus answered and said to them, “Go and tell John the things which you hear and see:
5 The blind see and the lame walk; the lepers are cleansed and the deaf hear; the dead are raised up and the poor have the gospel preached to them.
6 And blessed is he who is not offended because of Me.”
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But the real issue is that there is no reason to believe it will be any different this time either. And if for example, the way these prophecies talked about above are meant to be fulfilled is each one being a different entity, the real question becomes, would we be willing to accept it, or would we reject God’s ways in favor of our theories and interpretations? Like an evolutionist who holds on to the theory of evolution even when they see something in science or reality that shows it is false and that God is real, would we hold on to our theory of the end times, even when prophecy is fulfilled before us and reality shows our theory is false and incorrect? Would we be humble enough to say that we were wrong and let God do things His way?

Now, as for what this leads up to, the real problem we face with the way we have commonly interpreted all of these prophecies is that, just like what is talked about above, this whole idea where each one of these entities could be about different from each other doing different things during the end times, is actually not too far from the truth. To put it bluntly, we actually have been wrong. And this isn’t said as just some kind of opinion or belief. It’s said because when one really starts to dig into these prophecies, one starts to realize that the prophecies themselves actually make it impossible for one man to be all of these different entities, or for one man to do all of the things each entity does. They just can’t be reconciled with each other when using that kind of interpretation, and indeed, the

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only way to put them all together into one man is by leaving out key details that are given in the prophecies.

Just to go through it a bit and show how this is true, we’ll start with the whole idea talked about above of the anti-christ being the beast out of the sea who the mark is about, yet also having a deadly wound that gets healed. And the problem with this comes from a single verse found in Revelation 17.

To give a bit of context, the first time the beast out of the sea gets mentioned in Revelation is in Chapter 13, which has been talked about already. After this, the next part of Revelation is chapters 14 – 16 that are mainly all about the seven bowls of wrath being poured out on the earth as Yahuweh’s final judgment upon the everyone on the earth who has worshipped the beast. There are also a few other things mentioned as well in Revelation 14, like a certain 144,000 people who are redeemed from the earth and certain angels being sent out to harvest the earth, but this area is still predominantly all about Yahuweh’s wrath. It also briefly mentions “Babylon the great” falling in Revelation 14:8 and being given the cup of Yahuweh’s wrath in Revelation 16:19.

Then after this, we come to Revelation 17 where John is taken to a place in the wilderness and shown more about this “Babylon the great” mentioned before. Only this time it’s shown to him as a woman sitting on top of a beast. And this is the part that we are here for because this beast the woman is riding on is described as having seven heads and ten horns, just like the beast in Revelation 13. While at the same time, it also describes the woman who sits on the beast as sitting, “on many waters,” in verse 1, which is also the same as the beast who comes up out of the sea or waters and is basically on or in the midst of the waters. And altogether, this gives that full picture of the beast that is described in Revelation 13, and indeed, one finds that it is that same beast that is in Revelation 13.

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Revelation 17

1 Then one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and talked with me, saying to me, “Come, I will show you the judgment of the great harlot who sits on many waters,
2 with whom the kings of the earth committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth were made drunk with the wine of her fornication.”
3 So he carried me away in the Spirit into the wilderness. And I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast which was full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
4 The woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls, having in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and the filthiness of her fornication.
5 And on her forehead a name was written:
MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT,
THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS
AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS
OF THE EARTH.
6 I saw the woman, drunk with the blood of the saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. And when I saw her, I marveled with great amazement.
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However, with that being said, one key thing that is different here versus Revelation 13 is that the angel also gives John some interpretation about what this beast represents and what some of the parts that make up this beast represent. And it’s in this interpretation the angel gives that we find out one really important detail about this beast, in verse 11, which is the fact that the beast itself, as a whole entity, is

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actually an eighth sovereign or king all on it’s own, that comes out of and after seven other sovereigns or kings. And this is a really important detail because it means that in order for the anti-christ to be the beast and have things like the mark of the beast be about him, he would have to be this eighth sovereign that is the overall beast itself. Otherwise, those kinds of things would just be about whoever this eighth sovereign is, instead of being about this anti-christ figure we have created.

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Revelation 17
9 “Here is the mind which has wisdom: The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits. 10 There are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet come. And when he comes, he must continue a short time.
11 The beast that was, and is not, is himself also the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition.
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But at the same time, we also find out in verse 9 shown above that the seven heads on this beast, “are seven mountains on which the woman(Babel or Babylon) sits.” So right here we find out that the seven heads are actually representative of something very symbolic that has to do with Babel/Babylon, and ultimately, the cities of the world that this woman Babylon represents. And the description one sees here is that these seven heads are like the foundational rock or mountain that all of the cities of the world have sat upon and been built upon in some form, which has allowed them to exist and function.

Just using these verses, there isn’t any way of knowing what these mountains might be, but using some other verses in Daniel that are about four certain empires, which will be talked about later, there actually is a way to discover what these are. And they are basically these seven ideas that all cities throughout history have had in them and been built upon in some form. Each of the empires talked about in Daniel formed these ideas into something more concrete, and are actually very famous for doing so, but even before they did that, these seven ideas have always been a part of every city on the earth in some form. We also use them as part of all of our modern cities as well, just in an even more developed way. But they actually are the foundation for the whole concept of the “city,” to the point that, without these seven heads or ideas, there would be no cities in existence, and especially no large cities in existence. Just like Revelation talks about here, Babylon and the cities of the world really do sit on these seven heads or mountains.

One other thing that should also be mentioned here is that, with the way there are seven kings and seven heads in the Revelation 17 verses quoted above, there is always the possibility these heads could be those kings, as well as being the mountains Babylon/the cities of the world sit on. And indeed, I think many interpretations actually say these heads are those kings. But it’s hard to know for sure since it never actually says they are connected or symbolic of each other. All it actually says in the verses quoted above is, “There are also,” or rather to say, “in addition to these heads,” rather than specifically saying, “These heads are also seven sovereigns.” Because of this, I would even say that the way it phrases it is more of an indication of them being different from each other, than them being the same. But in any case, what we can know for sure is that the seven heads are representative of seven mountains that the woman, Babylon, and the cities of the earth sit upon, since this is the only thing it specifically says about them.

But as for why these two details are so important of the beast being an eighth sovereign on its own and the heads very specifically being these mountains, it’s because as mentioned before, Revelation 13 is also very specific that it’s one of these heads that has the mortal wound that gets healed:

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Revelation 13

3 And I saw one of his heads as if it had been mortally wounded, and his deadly wound was healed. And all the world marveled and followed the beast.
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So reading this, the question then becomes how can the anti-christ, who is a man, be one of these heads who has a wound that gets healed, when Revelation 17 reveals these heads aren’t actually even about people or kings or leaders at all? Instead very specifically being about these symbolic “mountains” that Babel/Babylon and all of the cities of the world throughout time and history have sat upon. One can see how it doesn’t really work when one combines both prophecies together, because the prophecy says the heads represent something that isn’t an actual being or something human.

And tying in the part about the eighth sovereign, even if one were to take the route that the seven heads do indeed represent those seven sovereigns or kings in addition to those mountains, and there could then be a chance that the heads represent a leader or something human, the problem becomes that the beast sovereign comes “after” and out of those seven other sovereigns, and is an eighth sovereign itself who is different from the other seven. So even in this sort of scenario, it doesn’t really work because the only way for that anti-christ figure to be both the beast and one of the heads would be if he is two different kings at the same time. He would also have to come “after” and out of himself since this is what the prophecy says the beast sovereign does, is come after and out of the seven other kings.

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Revelation 17 – the beast sovereign comes after the seven kings, and therefore would come after the heads as well if they also represent those kings
9 “Here is the mind which has wisdom: The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits. 10 There are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet come. And when he comes, he must continue a short time.
11 The beast that was, and is not, is himself also the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition.
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Putting all of this together now, in the end, what this means is that any way one looks at it, the prophecy itself actually makes it impossible for this person we call the anti-christ to be both the beast that the mark is about and have a deadly wound that gets healed. And the reason is simply because the core thing the Bible talks about these heads being isn’t even about people, and instead these mountains that the cities of the world have sat upon. While at the same time, even if one were to believe they are these seven kings in addition to these mountains, the seven heads are each different sovereigns from the beast as a whole who is an eighth that comes after them.

So it’s like it becomes doubly impossible for them to be the same person, and the only conclusion one can come to is that the beast that the mark is about is indeed a separate entity from whichever head has the wound that is healed, rather than the one anti-christ entity we have combined all of it into. Which of course also means there has been something very wrong with how we have interpreted these prophecies, and in the end, by saying the anti-christ figure will have a mark about him as the beast and at the same time have a deadly wound healed as one of the heads, we’ve actually created a scenario that could never happen if one only goes by what is in the prophecies.

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However, these kinds of things don’t stop here, because as mentioned before there are problems with the way we have combined other entities into one as well. Like for instance, the whole idea of the little horn in Daniel and the beast out of the sea being the same person.

There are quite a few problems with this, but the first one would be with even just the symbolism of these two entities that is presented in Revelation and Daniel, with one being a beast and the other being a little horn. The reason this becomes a problem is because of a bit of context surrounding the little horn that can be found in the beginning of Daniel 7. In this particular passage, Daniel has an experience where he is shown four different beasts that come up out of the sea. The first beast being a lion with eagle’s wings that stands up like a man and is given a man’s heart. The second being a bear that is raised up on one side with three ribs in its mouth. The third being a leopard that has four wings and four heads. While the fourth beast he doesn’t give very much of a description for other than it has iron teeth, is more fierce than the others, and has ten horns upon it.

So altogether what we have is a lion, a bear, a leopard with four heads, and a fourth with iron teeth and ten horns.

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Daniel 7

3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, each different from the other.
4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle’s wings. I watched till its wings were plucked off; and it was lifted up from the earth and made to stand on two feet like a man, and a man’s heart was given to it.
5 “And suddenly another beast, a second, like a bear. It was raised up on one side, and had three ribs in its mouth between its teeth. And they said thus to it: ‘Arise, devour much flesh!’
6 “After this I looked, and there was another, like a leopard, which had on its back four wings of a bird. The beast also had four heads, and dominion was given to it.
7 “After this I saw in the night visions, and behold, a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, exceedingly strong. It had huge iron teeth; it was devouring, breaking in pieces, and trampling the residue with its feet. It was different from all the beasts that were before it, and it had ten horns.

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Now jumping back over to Revelation 13, the reason why this is significant is because John actually describes the beast out of the sea using these same animals that Daniel sees. John talks about it being like a leopard with the feet of a bear and the mouth of a lion, which are the same three beasts from Daniel, only they are combined together into one.

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Revelation 13

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As for Daniel’s fourth beast, and why John doesn’t mention a fourth thing that might correlate better with the fourth beast, I don’t have any proof for this theory, but one of the things that is interesting about that fourth beast is just the fact that Daniel has no description for it, other than the iron teeth and the horns. While at the same time, he does give very relatable descriptions for the other three beasts. If one puts those two things together, a very likely explanation for why he doesn’t describe the fourth beast in the same way might just be because the fourth beast didn’t look like anything relatable in the same way the other three did. For instance, how would someone from that time period describe seeing something like a tank, other than to say it has fire coming out of its mouth and moves like a chariot?

Or how would one describe a helicopter other than it was made of iron and could fly like locust? It’s so far removed from anything they would have known during that time period that there just isn’t really any way to describe it other than talking about those parts that actually are relatable, and one has to leave things vague because one can’t relate it to anything they know. So in the same way, Daniel probably had to leave things vague and undescribed for that fourth beast because the teeth were the only thing relatable about it. This also isn’t to say that that fourth beast was a tank, or anything like that, but it is just to give an example of how difficult it can be to describe something if it doesn’t look like anything one is familiar with.

So bearing this in mind, it would actually make sense that John wouldn’t describe anything more than those first three beasts that Daniel sees, simply because if Daniel couldn’t recognize what he was seeing and had a hard time describing it, most likely John wouldn’t have recognized that fourth beast as anything relatable either when he saw it as part of the beast out of the sea. And not being able to relate to it, he probably just didn’t know how to describe it, or possibly didn’t even notice it, and therefore didn’t say anything about it just like Daniel didn’t say anything about it.

So all that to say that, even though there isn’t proof for it, I imagine the fourth beast was indeed a part of the beast out of the sea, but just as Daniel couldn’t recognize what it was, John couldn’t recognize it either when he saw it as part of that beast, and therefore didn’t talk about it.

But what’s more important is that these aren’t the only correlations between these beasts in Daniel and the one in Revelation, because something else one notices is that in verse 1 of those Daniel verses quoted above, Daniel also describes these four beasts coming up out of the sea, which is just like what John describes in Revelation where the beast comes up out of the sea. There is also the fact that Daniel talks about the fourth beast having ten horns, which is again just like the beast in Revelation where John says it has ten horns upon it.

As for the seven heads, with the way that Daniel does indeed mention the leopard having four heads, or rather, an abnormal amount of heads, while at the same time doesn’t mention how many heads the other beasts had, it most likely means the other beasts just had a normal one head each. Because if they didn’t, Daniel probably would have said something like he did with the leopard. But working from this theory, what one finds is that there would actually be seven heads on the beasts altogether because the lion is one head, the bear is one head, the leopard is four heads, and the fourth beast is one head, altogether making seven. This too would of course be just like the beast out of the sea in Revelation.

So putting all of this together, what we have is the animals the beasts are described with are the same in both Daniel and Revelation, the way they come out of the sea is the same, the ten horns are the same, and the seven heads are most likely the same as well, even though there isn’t definitive proof for that since Daniel doesn’t specifically say each of those had one head. But nevertheless, with the way that everything else is most definitely the same, basically what one finds is that Daniel and John are actually

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seeing the same thing, only they are seeing it a little differently from each other. Daniel is seeing it separated into its various parts and in a more detailed way, while John is seeing all of it combined together.

Now for the part that we are here for, what comes after this part in Daniel becomes very significant, because he actually sees the little horn sprout up among the other ten horns that are on that fourth beast, then humble three of them.

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Daniel 7

7 “After that, in my vision at night I looked, and there before me was a fourth beast—terrifying and frightening and very powerful. It had large iron teeth; it crushed and devoured its victims and trampled underfoot whatever was left. It was different from all the former beasts, and it had ten horns.
8 “While I was thinking about the horns, there before me was another horn, a little one, which came up among them; and three of the first horns were uprooted before it. This horn had eyes like the eyes of a human being and a mouth that spoke boastfully…

…23 “He gave me this explanation: ‘The fourth beast is a fourth kingdom that will appear on earth. It will be different from all the other kingdoms and will devour the whole earth, trampling it down and crushing it.
24 The ten horns are ten kings who will come from this kingdom. After them another king will arise, different from the earlier ones; he will subdue three kings.

25 He will speak against the Most High and oppress his holy people and try to change the set times and the laws. The holy people will be delivered into his hands for a time, times and half a time.
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And the reason this is so significant is because, as talked about before, Revelation 17 reveals that the beast entity as a whole that Daniel and John are seeing, is actually an eighth sovereign itself. It’s not only some kind of symbolic thing or just representative of some kind of final one world government that we have come to believe will exist during the end times. It is a king all on its own, in addition to all other kings or sovereigns ever mentioned during the end times. So the question becomes, how can that anti-christ figure be the eighth sovereign that is the beast itself and have things like the mark about him, while at the same time be this little horn sovereign that actually sprouts up among the other ten horns that are only connected to the beast? Just the same as with the heads, it’s again that whole question of, how can he be two different sovereigns at the same time, when one sovereign is the actual beast that the mark is about, and the other sovereign is only connected to the beast as a horn upon it, and only at that same level as the other ten horn sovereigns? One can see where it becomes an impossibility.

But it’s also just the symbolism of these entities that shows this difference as well, because the symbolism is that one of them sprouts up as a horn on the beast while the other is the beast itself, and just like in the natural world, a horn on an animal is a very different thing from the actual animal itself. They are of course connected, but the horn will still always be just a thing sitting on the animal, while the animal is the one in control and using that horn to do whatever it wants to do with it. They aren’t equal with each other, one might say, and the animal is very much the one behind whatever the horn is doing and in control.

So putting that symbolism back into the prophecy now, and believing there is a reason for why God shows all of it in the way that He does, what it of course indicates is that the beast sovereign basically rules over the little horn sovereign and is in control of that little horn. Because this is the place a horn

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has on all natural beasts or animals, is a place of being ruled over by that beast. And this is very significant for the whole idea of both of these entities being one man, that person we call the anti-christ, because in order for that idea to be true, he would basically have to be a sovereign who is ruling over himself as another sovereign, being controlled and influenced by himself as that sovereign, since the little horn sovereign is beneath the beast sovereign. But this doesn’t make a whole lot of sense, for how can a man be a king ruling over himself as another king? What makes much more sense would be that they are two different sovereigns, living out these two very different roles that the symbolism indicates they have, with the beast sovereign having greater authority than the little horn and having power or influence over him.

But as mentioned before, this symbolism isn’t the only problem with this whole idea of the little horn and the beast being the same person. There are other things as well. And where we go to find the next issue are two verses in Daniel 7 quoted below, where it very specifically says this little horn only subdues three of the ten horns that are on this beast:

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Daniel 7

8 “While I was thinking about the horns, there before me was another horn, a little one, which came up among them; and three of the first horns were uprooted before it. This horn had eyes like the eyes of a human being and a mouth that spoke boastfully…
…24 The ten horns are ten kings who will come from this kingdom. After them another king will arise, different from the earlier ones; he will subdue three kings.

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And the issue that arises with this comes from something else mentioned in Revelation 17, where it also very specifically says that all ten horns give their power and authority to the beast.

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Revelation 17

12 “The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority for one hour as kings with the beast.
13 These are of one mind, and they will give their power and authority to the beast…
…16 And the ten horns which you saw on the beast, these will hate the harlot, make her desolate and naked, eat her flesh and burn her with fire.

17 For God has put it into their hearts to fulfill His purpose, to be of one mind, and to give their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God are fulfilled.
18 And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.” ——-

So what we have here is a bit of a conundrum for our one person interpretation of these prophecies. Because according to Daniel, the only thing the little horn sovereign does is pluck out and subdue three of the ten horns, while according to Revelation, the beast or beast sovereign is given the power, the authority, and the kingdoms from all ten horns, which is much more than anything the little horn is able to accomplish. One can see how what they do doesn’t really mix together because how can one person only accomplish subduing three of the horns, while at the same time do even more than that and be given the power, authority, and kingdoms from all ten?

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This also becomes even more of a conundrum when one includes the greater context of these prophecies as well. Because in both sets of prophecies, the context is Yeshua returning and taking away all of these sovereign’s rules, only in Daniel it talks about Him returning after the little horn has accomplished subduing three horns, while in Revelation He returns after the beast has been given the power and authority from all ten horns. This, when put together, means that during the same time frame and by the same point in time of Yeshua’s return, the beast that is that eighth sovereign and the little horn sovereign have actually accomplished completely different things from each other. At that moment of Yeshua’s return, all the little horn has accomplished is subduing three horns, while at that same moment of Yeshua’s return, the beast has been given the power, the authority, and the kingdoms from all ten horns. There also isn’t anything more added on to what they do with the ten horns either. It’s just, “These two entities will do these certain things with them, then the end comes.”

Or to put it another way, they would have to be different entities because, according to Daniel, Yeshua returns before the little horn has even gotten around to subduing a fourth horn, while in Revelation, at that same point in time, the beast sovereign has not only gone past four horns, but all ten horns have given their power and authority to him. Which, just to say again, shows that two very different things have been accomplished by that consistent point in time that is in each of the prophecies.

Some of the greater context
Daniel 7 – Talking about the little horn subduing three horns, then right after, Yeshua setting up His reign on earth.
7 “After this I saw in the night visions, and behold, a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, exceedingly strong. It had huge iron teeth; it was devouring, breaking in pieces, and trampling the residue with its feet. It was different from all the beasts that were before it, and it had ten horns.
8 I was considering the horns, and there was another horn, a little one, coming up among them, before whom three of the first horns were plucked out by the roots. And there, in this horn, were eyes like the eyes of a man, and a mouth speaking pompous words.
9 “I watched till thrones were put in place, and the Ancient of Days was seated; his garment was white as snow, and the hair of His head was like pure wool. his throne was a fiery flame, its wheels a burning fire;
10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before Him. a thousand thousands ministered to Him; ten thousand times ten thousand stood before Him. the court was seated, and the books were opened…
…23 “Thus he said: ‘The fourth beast shall be a fourth kingdom on earth, which shall be different from all other kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, trample it and break it in pieces.
24 The ten horns are ten kings who shall arise from this kingdom. And another shall rise after them; he shall be different from the first ones, and shall subdue three kings.
25 He shall speak pompous words against the Most High, shall persecute the saints of the Most High, and shall intend to change times and law. Then the saints shall be given into his hand for a time and times and half a time.
26 ‘But the court shall be seated, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and destroy it forever.
27 Then the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people, the saints of the Most High. His kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey Him.’

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Revelation – Talking about the ten horns giving their power and authority to the beast, then babylon being destroyed, and right after this, Yeshua coming on the white horse and setting up His reign on earth.
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12 “The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority for one hour as kings with the beast.
13 These are of one mind, and they will give their power and authority to the beast.
14 These will make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, for He is Lord of lords and King of kings; and those who are with Him are called, chosen, and faithful.”

15 Then he said to me, “The waters which you saw, where the harlot sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues.
16 And the ten horns which you saw on the beast, these will hate the harlot, make her desolate and naked, eat her flesh and burn her with fire.

1 After these things I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great authority, and the earth was illuminated with his glory.
2 And he cried mightily with a loud voice, saying, “Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and has become a dwelling place of demons, a prison for every foul spirit, and a cage for every unclean and hated bird!…

21 Then a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone and threw it into the sea, saying, “Thus with violence the great city Babylon shall be thrown down, and shall not be found anymore.
22 The sound of harpists, musicians, flutists, and trumpeters shall not be heard in you anymore. No craftsman of any craft shall be found in you anymore, and the sound of a millstone shall not be heard in you anymore.

23 The light of a lamp shall not shine in you anymore, and the voice of bridegroom and bride shall not be heard in you anymore. For your merchants were the great men of the earth, for by your sorcery all the nations were deceived.
24 And in her was found the blood of prophets and saints, and of all who were slain on the earth.”

…1 After these things I heard a loud voice of a great multitude in heaven, saying, “Alleluia! Salvation and glory and honor and power belong to the Lord our God!
2 For true and righteous are His judgments, because He has judged the great harlot who corrupted the earth with her fornication; and He has avenged on her the blood of His servants shed by her.”…

…11 Now I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse. And He who sat on him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and makes war.
12 His eyes were like a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns. He had a name written that no one knew except Himself.

13 He was clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.
14 And the armies in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, followed Him on white horses.
15 Now out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron. He Himself treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
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So adding in this kind of context, it shows even more how one person can’t do both things, and shows even more how that anti-christ type figure we have created really would have to do either subduing three horns or being given the power from all ten, instead of both things at once like we have tried to say he does. This of course also leads to that same conclusion that has been talked about before. Which is that the beast or beast sovereign must be a different entity from the little horn sovereign, because right here in these passages, the Bible talks about them doing such different things from each other that no one person could do alone, and even talks about them accomplishing those things during the same time period in the end times.

But something else that is also interesting is how it never talks about those three horns giving power or authority or their kingdoms to the little horn like it does with the beast. All that it says about them is that the little horn plucks them out in Daniel 7:8 and subdues or diminishes them in Daniel 7:24. And this is interesting because that sort of thing can have a lot of different meanings to it. I think it’s normally been interpreted as the little horn conquering the nation those three horns might be king over and basically plucking them out by conquering their nations, but it doesn’t have to mean that sort of thing, and indeed, it doesn’t actually say that is what happens. It could also mean something like, using his cunning that Daniel 8:25 talks about him having, the little horn causes the three horns to lose an election in their country, which would cause them to lose their power and kingdom since someone else would take their place. In that sort of scenario, the nation would still exist as a nation and would be left unconquered, but the horn king would be plucked out of his position of power and subdued just like the prophecy describes. The little horn also wouldn’t even be given any kind of power or authority or kingdom like the beast is given. And it’s interesting how the fulfillment of that could be quite different from what we think should happen, and quite different from what it talks about with the beast who is given their power and kingdoms.

But to be honest, even the idea of these ten horns ruling over nations may not even be an accurate interpretation. Because the fact of the matter is, when one reads the prophecies, there is actually nothing in them that says the horns have to represent kings or leaders of nations. All it talks about is them having a reign and having power, authority, and a kingdom that they can give to the beast. Many times we assume those things mean they are sovereigns over nations, but those things in and of themselves don’t automatically mean that. They could also be kings / CEOs over things like international companies, like Apple or Google or Facebook or Microsoft etc., which actually have a higher asset value, yearly income, and greater influential power than most nations on the earth right now: https://www.visualcapitalist.com/the-tech-giants-worth-compared-economies-countries/. Or they could be kings / heads of banks and that sort of thing, who rule over their banking kingdom with power and authority that they then give to the beast. In this day and age, there are a lot of different ways one can be a sovereign with a kingdom, and plucking out and subduing a sovereign in that kind of context can look very different from conquering a nation.

For instance, it could mean something as simple as the little horn throwing a global bank out of his country and taking away it’s ability to function in his nation, or throwing out some international company. Just like the idea of a leader losing an election, this would also very much be a plucking
out / uprooting and subduing of a type of king with a kingdom and would fit what the prophecy says. It would just be happening in a more local sense that doesn’t take away all of their power, and instead just the power they have in the little horn’s country.

So it’s just interesting how the phraseology that is used to describe what happens with the ten horns is so different from each other. When talking about the beast, God is very direct about it being given the actual kingdoms and power from the horns, while with the little horn, it’s more ambiguous and there

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are many different ways it could be fulfilled that don’t even have to involve being given any kind of power or authority from the three horns. Basically, it’s another difference between the two of them.

Something that goes along with this too that I also find fascinating is how there actually isn’t any indication in Revelation 17 that any of the ten horns give their power, authority, and kingdoms to the beast by force, unlike with the little horn who does forcefully pluck out and subdue the three horns. With the beast, it’s instead something the horns do willingly in verse 17 below because, “God has put it into their hearts to fulfill His purpose, to be of one mind, and to give their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God are fulfilled.” And in verse 16 below, one finds out they are actually acting with one mind to fulfill God’s purpose of destroying Babylon, or rather, all of our cities we have built that are based on Babylon and everything Babylon is, which is a very interesting little detail because a lot of times in our interpretations, we have thought these ten horns were coming together with that anti-christ figure to create some kind of one world government. Yet, no, right here it says these ten horns come together and give their power to the beast for the sole purpose of destroying Babylon, and God is even the one bringing them together to do this. This is also even more extraordinary when one realizes that the only way for a one world government to exist is through all the cities of the world that we have created, since without the cities and all of the infrastructure / governmental structure found in the cities, there is no way to control or communicate to all the people that would be ruled over by a one world government. So it’s quite fascinating how Yahuweh is actually giving them one mind to destroy the very thing that makes a one world government possible.

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12 “The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority for one hour as kings with the beast.
13 These are of one mind, and they will give their power and authority to the beast.
14 These will make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, for He is Lord of lords and King of kings; and those who are with Him are called, chosen, and faithful.”
15 Then he said to me, “The waters which you saw, where the harlot sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues.
16 And the ten horns which you saw on the beast, these will hate the harlot, make her desolate and naked, eat her flesh and burn her with fire.
17 For God has put it into their hearts to fulfill His purpose, to be of one mind, and to give their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God are fulfilled.
18 And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.”
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But what we have here is that, on the one hand, it’s very specific that the little horn plucks out and subdues the three horns, which is a very attacking kind of thing to do and something one only does when they are against someone else and trying to destroy them. While with the beast, the ten horns give up their kingdoms and power willingly and out of the desire in their own hearts, which God has given them. And one can see how different those two actions are. One is the three horns aggressively being taken down by the little horn, while the other is all ten horns coming together with the beast in a unity of mind to fulfill this purpose of destroying Babylon. How they interact with the horns really could not be more opposite from each other. And one could also add to this that the reasoning behind how they interact with the horns is quite different too, where with the beast it talks about God bringing them together to fulfill His purpose, while with the little horn, as far as I know it never mentions God’s purpose for him subduing those three. I’m sure He is still fulfilling a purpose, but it doesn’t talk about it like it does with the beast.

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One last thing to mention too is something found in Daniel 7:26. It’s a bit difficult to see this in the New King James version because at the end of this verse, there is actually a Hebrew word that gets left out of the translation, which changes the meaning of things. One can however see it quite clearly in the original King James version or at a place like qbible: http://qbible.com/hebrew-old-testament/daniel/7.html, where the translation is more literal to the definition of each Hebrew word. On qbible they have also added Strong’s concordance links to each Hebrew word, which makes it easier to see how the last part of verse 26 should be translated and what each word there actually means. So for this, I’m going to switch over to using the original King James instead of the New King James.

But when one reads verse 24 -26, this part of Daniel is all about the angel giving interpretation of the ten horns and the little horn to Daniel. And what it says here in the original King James, in verse 24 is, “And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.” Then after this in verse 25 it talks about how this little horn that comes after the ten, “shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.” So basically what we have here are two “they” or “them.” It first says another shall arise after “them,” meaning the ten horns. Then after this, it says “they” shall be given into his hand, most likely meaning the saints, although it could also be the times and laws too. Now for verse 26, it then says, “But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.” Here it is all together:

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Daniel 7

24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.
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And it’s the last part of this verse 26 that becomes so significant where it says, “unto the end,” because this means that the little horn’s dominion actually gets taken away from him before the end comes, and is in process of being consumed and destroyed “unto the end” or until the end. This can also be seen even better on a place like qbible when one looks up that last part and follows the concordance links. What can be seen there is that there are two Hebrew words that make up that last part. The first Hebrew word means “until” or “before,” or in some of the other dictionaries on there, “up to” or “during” or “up to the time that.” While the second word means “end” or “conclusion” or “forever.” Putting those two definitions together, one can see where we basically have the phrase “up to the end,” or “before the end,” or “until forever comes.” It’s very much all about these things happening to the little horn “before” Yeshua comes back.

And this is just very significant because we kind of have this idea about this anti-christ figure we have created, where his kingdom is going to be getting larger and larger and he’s going to be ruling and reigning even up to the time when Yeshua comes back. And this whole idea is indeed at least partially true about the beast sovereign’s empire, because it does talk about that sovereign being given the power and authority from all ten horns, as well as the authority being given to the beast from every tongue,

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tribe, and nation in Revelation 13:7. And Revelation 19 also talks about that beast being part of the final army that comes against Jerusalem right at the time when Yeshua comes, which means that beast sovereign still has at least some power that would enable him to do that right up to the point that Yeshua comes. Yet this isn’t true about the little horn because right here in Daniel, it’s very clear that instead this little horn will actually be losing power up to the time when Yeshua comes back. Even more, his dominion is actually already taken away from him, and that dominion or kingdom is in the process of being consumed and destroyed until the end when Yeshua comes. It’s being brought down instead of becoming larger, and already taken away instead of still being great at the time Yeshua comes, which again shows a big difference between them.

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Revelation 13:7

7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation.

Revelation 19

20 Then the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who worked signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image. These two were cast alive into the lake of fire burning with brimstone.
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But furthermore, the ones bringing it down are “they” in verse 26, meaning either the ten horns, the saints, or the times and law the little horn has sought to change. It’s a bit difficult to know for sure which one of those the “they” is referring to because the context is really talking about all three and that pronoun is used in reference to all three in the previous verses. However, even so, one could speculate that it’s actually the ten horns who take the little horn’s dominion away from him. And the reason is simply because I don’t think that sort of thing has ever been done by Yahuweh’s saints before where they take away a ruler’s dominion, then consume and destroy it for a length of time. It’s certainly possible that they might, but I’ve never heard of it happening. What would be much more likely is if the ten horns are the one’s who do this, since they already have power and kingdoms that would enable them to do something like this. But this becomes quite interesting because it means the ten horns who give all their power, authority, and kingdoms to the beast are actually against the little horn, and cause his dominion to be taken away as well as consumed and destroyed. So on the one hand, these ten horns are with the beast, yet on the other, they are against the little horn. And one can’t put those two things together into one person being both the beast and the little horn, because the ten horns couldn’t be both with that person and against that person at the same time. This idea of being at odds with the ten horns also fits quite well with the way the little horn aggressively plucks out and subdues three of them. It shows the same kind of relationship, just from different angles.

So all in all, there are really a lot of fascinating differences that can be gleaned from just this small area of these two prophecies that is all about what these two entities do with the ten horns. And adding it all up, one can again see the impossibility of them being the same person because everything they do with these horns is so different from each other. One subdues three while the other is given the power from all ten, and they both accomplish those things at the same point in time of Yeshua returning. With one, the prophecies never talk about the it gaining anything from the horns, just that it plucks them out, while the other is given absolutely everything from the horns. One aggressively plucks three out, while the other comes together with all ten, including those three, in a kind of unity and friendship. One interacts with the horns without it talking about God having a purpose behind it, while with the other, it

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talks about God having a very definite purpose behind it. One has his dominion taken away from him some time before Yeshua comes, while the other still has its power and authority at the time Yeshua comes. And lastly, one is with the ten horns to fulfill a purpose they all share together, while the other most likely has its dominion taken away, consumed, and destroyed by the ten horns.

It’s really quite fascinating how different they are, and how impossible it is to put what they do into one person doing all of it. And one can see how trying to put all of them into one person actually creates inconsistencies in the prophecies that can’t be reconciled with each other. Like the inconsistency and mathematical impossibility of the anti-christ figure plucking out and subduing only three horns, while at the same time basically subduing more than three horns and being given the power and authority from all ten horns. And I think one can see where there is a disconnect here between how we have interpreted these end time prophecies in the Bible, and the reality of what the Bible actually says about the end times. This disconnect is there in so many different ways too that go far beyond just the fact that one of them only subdues three of the horns while the other is given the power from all ten horns.

But I think too, it’s also very interesting how one again sees that idea being presented of the beast who is that eighth sovereign having much greater power and ability than the little horn, since it’s given the kingdoms, the power, and authority from all ten horns, while the little horn only interacts with three of those horns. It also doesn’t even mention the little horn gaining any power from his interaction with them. And this is very much like what can be seen in the symbolism that was talked about before, where the beast who is this eighth sovereign is the actual animal with all the power, and the little horn is just a horn on the animal, being used by the animal. It starts to show a pattern in the prophecies of the little horn sovereign having a much lower kind of position than the beast sovereign, and having a much smaller role in the end times than the beast sovereign has.

Now for one last thing having to do with this little horn and the beast, there is something really fascinating that has to do with the kingdoms the little horn and beast have, which again shows a very large difference between them. And the place where one goes to find out about this is in Daniel 8, where Daniel has another vision about this little horn that is different from the one in Daniel 7.

Just to go through the verses real quick, what Daniel sees is a ram with two horns, which the angel tells him represents the kingdoms of Persia and Mede joined together. And this ram is going out in all directions, conquering many places around it. Then while looking at this, he sees a male goat with a single horn, which comes from the West and kills the ram by charging at it with this single horn. In verse 21, this male goat is revealed to be the kingdom of Greece, and with our ability to look back in history, we can now know that the horn was Alexander the Great, who actually did come from the West, from Greece, and conquered the Persian and Mede empire. Daniel wouldn’t have known this of course, because it happened after his time, but nevertheless, this is how things happened.

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What Daniel Sees

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3 Then I lifted my eyes and saw, and there, standing beside the river, was a ram which had two horns, and the two horns were high; but one was higher than the other, and the higher one came up last.
4 I saw the ram pushing westward, northward, and southward, so that no animal could withstand him; nor was there any that could deliver from his hand, but he did according to his will and became great. 5 And as I was considering, suddenly a male goat came from the west, across the surface of the whole earth, without touching the ground; and the goat had a notable horn between his eyes.

6 Then he came to the ram that had two horns, which I had seen standing beside the river, and ran at him with furious power.
7 And I saw him confronting the ram; he was moved with rage against him, attacked the ram, and broke his two horns. There was no power in the ram to withstand him, but he cast him down to the ground and trampled him; and there was no one that could deliver the ram from his hand.

8 Therefore the male goat grew very great; but when he became strong,…

Angel’s Interpretation

15 Then it happened, when I, Daniel, had seen the vision and was seeking the meaning, that suddenly there stood before me one having the appearance of a man.
16 And I heard a man’s voice between the banks of the Ulai, who called, and said, “Gabriel, make this man understand the vision.”

17 So he came near where I stood, and when he came I was afraid and fell on my face; but he said to me, “Understand, son of man, that the vision refers to the time of the end.”
18 Now, as he was speaking with me, I was in a deep sleep with my face to the ground; but he touched me, and stood me upright.

19 And he said, “Look, I am making known to you what shall happen in the latter time of the indignation; for at the appointed time the end shall be.
20 The ram which you saw, having the two horns—they are the kings of Media and Persia.
21 And the male goat is the kingdom of Greece. The large horn that is between its eyes is the first king. ——-

As for the next part of the vision, Daniel then sees this single horn on the male goat break in verse 8, and four other horns come up and take its place. Later on in verse 22, the angel reveals that these are representative of four kingdoms which arise out of the nation of Greece, after that first horn or king is gone. So again looking back through history, this would be representative of Alexander the Great’s Greek empire being divided into four kingdoms after his death, which in the end, also did indeed happen. After his death, four of his generals eventually divided Alexander’s Greek empire into four kingdoms.

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What Daniel Sees

8 Therefore the male goat grew very great; but when he became strong, the large horn was broken, and in place of it four notable ones came up toward the four winds of heaven.

Angel’s Interpretation
22 As for the broken horn and the four that stood up in its place, four kingdoms shall arise out of that nation, but not with its power.
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Then after this, here is where we get to the interesting part in verse 9, where it says, “And out of one of them (meaning those four horns) came a little horn which grew exceedingly great toward the south, toward the east, and toward the Glorious Land.” And this is of course talking about that little horn

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found in Daniel 7, which is confirmed by the description the angel gives of this little horn in verses 23- 26 that it is very much like the description given in Daniel 7 of the little horn. There is also another correlation between two of the beasts in Daniel 7 representing the Persian/ Mede empire and the Greek empire, just like these two beasts in Daniel 8 represent those two empires, which again shows how it is the same little horn, but it’s a bit too much to get into right now and will be talked about later.

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Daniel 8

9 And out of one of them came a little horn which grew exceedingly great toward the south, toward the east, and toward the Glorious Land…
…23 “And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors have reached their fullness, a king shall arise, having fierce features, who understands sinister schemes.

24 His power shall be mighty, but not by his own power; he shall destroy fearfully, and shall prosper and thrive; he shall destroy the mighty, and also the holy people.
25 “Through his cunning he shall cause deceit to prosper under his rule; and he shall exalt himself in his heart. He shall destroy many in their prosperity. He shall even rise against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without human means.

26 “And the vision of the evenings and mornings which was told is true; therefore seal up the vision, for it refers to many days in the future.”

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But what’s even more interesting for our purposes is that at the same time that it’s talking about the little horn, it’s also revealing what part of the world that person operates in and becomes great in, which is to the South and East of the nation of Greece, since Greece is the nation the little horn is coming out of in the vision, and Greece is what is being talked about here. And basically, you find out is that it’s the area of the Middle East that the little horn becomes great in, since this is what lies toward the South and East of Greece. If one looks up Alexander the Great’s empire, the whole area of the Middle East is also the main area that he conquered as well. So it makes sense that if the little horn comes out of that empire in some manner, that he would also become exceedingly great in that same area of the world he comes out of.

Here are all of the verses together, with verse 9 included:

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Daniel 8

8 Therefore the male goat grew very great; but when he became strong, the large horn was broken, and in place of it four notable ones came up toward the four winds of heaven.

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9 And out of one of them came a little horn which grew exceedingly great toward the south, toward the east, and toward the Glorious Land.
10 And it grew up to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and some of the stars to the ground, and trampled them…

…15 Then it happened, when I, Daniel, had seen the vision and was seeking the meaning, that suddenly there stood before me one having the appearance of a man.
16 And I heard a man’s voice between the banks of the Ulai, who called, and said, “Gabriel, make this man understand the vision.”

23 “And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors have reached their fullness, a king shall arise, having fierce features, who understands sinister schemes.
24 His power shall be mighty, but not by his own power; he shall destroy fearfully, and shall prosper and thrive; he shall destroy the mighty, and also the holy people.

25 “Through his cunning he shall cause deceit to prosper under his rule; and he shall exalt himself in his heart. He shall destroy many in their prosperity. He shall even rise against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without human means.
26 “And the vision of the evenings and mornings which was told is true; therefore seal up the vision, for it refers to many days in the future.”

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However, when finding out this little bit of information, the problem that arises for our one man anti- christ interpretations of the end times is another little bit of information found in Revelation 13:7 about the beast out of the sea who is that eighth sovereign. And what we find out here is that the beast out of the sea has the authority given to it over, “every tribe, tongue, and nation,” and, “All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.”

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Revelation 13

7 It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them. And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation.
8 All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
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So basically what we find out is that the beast out of the sea becomes exceedingly great over the entire earth, with the entire earth worshipping it, unlike the little horn who is only exceedingly great toward the South and East of Greece. And this again creates a conundrum for that one man, anti-christ figure interpretation of the end times that we have created, because once again, how can one man be great

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only toward the South and East of Greece, while at the same time be great and have authority over the entire earth that is far beyond that? Or how can one man be worshipped by everyone on the entire earth, and yet, only actually be considered great in the area of the Middle East? Wouldn’t he have to be considered great over the entire earth to be worshipped by the entire earth? One can see how, again, one man can’t do both things that are described in these two prophecies. It would have to be two different entities doing two different things during the end times.

But I think too, something else that makes these two sets of verses interesting is that they not only reveal the areas of the world these two entities operate in, they also show a distinction between the size of kingdoms these two entities have. Because a lot of times in our interpretations we think of the beast out of the sea being representative of just the anti-christ’s kingdom or something like that, as opposed to also being that eighth sovereeign. But these two sets of verses show how, even when looking at it like that, the little horn’s kingdom still couldn’t be the same as the beast’s kingdom because of just how small the little horn’s kingdom would be compared to the beast’s kingdom. Whereas the beast’s kingdom covers the entire earth with authority over every tongue, tribe, and nation, the little horn’s kingdom covers only somewhere in the Middle East, since this is where he becomes great in, and this is a pretty small area of the world to be great in when one is looking at the entire earth. Even if one were to say this little horn rules over the entire Middle East, or something like that, it still would never be a very big kingdom when one thinks of the beast out of the sea having authority over the entire earth, including the Middle East and the little horn’s kingdom. This too is why this man in Daniel is called a “little” horn as well, is because Yahuweh is giving a prophecy about a king who reigns over something “little,” as opposed to something big like the beast out of the sea, or even as opposed to the size of the kingdoms those ten other horns have that it sprouts up among.

It’s also really fascinating how, when one includes this verse with the other two things talked about before, one starts to see a narrative that Yahuweh is telling about this little horn. Because first you have the whole symbolism of this little horn and the way that this person is only attached to the beast out of the sea in some way, and basically is being used as a tool or weapon of the beast to do things. And this in the end shows the little horn is at a much lower position of authority and power than the beast. Then you also have the way that the little horn plucks out and subdues only three horns, while the beast is given the kingdoms, power, and authority from all ten horns, which shows how what it does during the end times is on a much smaller scale than what the beast does. And now one also has the fact that the area of the world the little horn becomes great in is also much smaller than the area of the world the beast out of the sea becomes great in. One can see how it’s a consistent narrative running through the Daniel and Revelation prophecies, that this little horn is a smaller entity during the end times than the beast out of the sea who is that eighth sovereign beast. He still has a larger role in the end times than many other people, because there are prophecies specifically about him, but the things he does are still on a vastly smaller scale than the beast out of the sea that is operating on this very global kind of stage. And according to those Daniel 7:26 verses talked about before, the little horn’s kingdom even gets destroyed before Yeshua comes back, whereas the beast is still around doing things and a part of marching against Jerusalem at the time Yeshua comes.

(Still working on the rest of the discussion)

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